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Just got the book from a friend - anyone read it?
Its the history of Coum Trans. and Throb Gristle
So far its a pretty interesing read.
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Re: Wreckers of Civilization
Sat, July 10, 2004 - 6:01 PMit's available at the san francisco public library, hooray!
((why of course, everything is)
what do you think of this review?
'Beware of post-postmodern types name-dropping COUM and Throbbing GristleTM as the proud parents of industrial music and industrial bands like Nine Inch Nails; that's the half-assed version to expect from people who think they invented black. Here, Ford shows the patience and respect of an extragenerational fan while detailing the frenetic evolution of COUM from a hippie freak-out band to a performance art troupe to TG, an anti-rock, anti-high art missionary. Although TG's attacks on social, political, sexual, musical, and artistic mores were brave, they often bordered on the hypocritical--e.g., TG desired intimacy with its audience but used halogen lights and P.A. barricades to alienate people at live shows. Using his interviews with Chris Carter, Peter Christopherson, Genesis P-Orridge, and Cosey Fanni Tutti, Ford convincingly defends TG on every front--including its use of fascist album imagery--and proves that COUM and TG elevated civilization more than they wrecked it. A dense but enlightening work; for larger public libraries.' Heather McCormack, "Library Journal" -
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Sun, July 18, 2004 - 8:21 AM
Sure they alienated their audiences....with their performances if not their PA's and halogen lights. They also drew them in. They were always living and creating in the moment - and the results would be ever changing. Of course, I was too young to have experienced any of their performances so...what do I know? I have seen Psychic TV. Now that was all inclusive. Most of the audience ended up on stage by the end of the show. Get the book, you'll enjoy it, I promise.
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Re: Wreckers of Civilization
Thu, July 15, 2004 - 1:05 AMI always regret not buying this book when it came out. I've not read it, even. I remember, though, that the first printing was missing a section of pages. This was why I didn't buy it, waiting for the next printing. Was this ever corrected...? -
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Re: Wreckers of Civilization
Sun, July 18, 2004 - 8:15 AMSeems to have been corrected in the edition I have. I heard its fucking expensive though...my friend gave me the copy I have. I'm totally into it...recommend it highly. -
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Re: Wreckers of Civilization
Mon, July 19, 2004 - 9:57 AMSince it's out of print, it's become another in the long line of TG/PTV "collectibles" which will cost you more than Genesis' new set of tits. -
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Re: Wreckers of Civilization
Mon, July 19, 2004 - 10:26 AMMaybe he wants to purchace another pair - one on each knee cap. Think of how much fun that could be -
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Re: Wreckers of Civilization
Tue, July 20, 2004 - 10:14 AMThere ya go - even if it has been stolen from your local library - you can buy it without selling off your left kidney. -
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Re: Wreckers of Civilization
Sat, July 31, 2004 - 1:18 PM::currently reading
amazing pictures in there
will tell when done;:
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Re: Wreckers of Civilization
Wed, August 4, 2004 - 11:45 PMOhhh excellent. Thanks for the link. I'll get my hands on one!
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Re: Wreckers of Civilization
Sun, December 26, 2004 - 10:17 AMTHANK YOU!! I finally found it. I had been looking for it -- and found it FINALLY right when it was released in LA at Amok, but I reserved it cuz I didn't have the cash and went back and they were sold out -- I've searched now for about 10 YEARS
Aleph -- is that you?? from SF?? I used to hang out with you and JJ and Butch back in the 80's. IF it TIS -- let's be friends!!
I don't think I've seen you for well over 10 years.
Love,
bobbee
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Wed, December 29, 2004 - 10:44 AMIt IS me!
Good to see you again.
Consider yourself *friended*
Verrrry Friennnndlyyyyyy!
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Re: Wreckers of Civilization
Sat, June 4, 2005 - 8:46 AMI wondered about that!!! I have one of the printings where it's missing some pages while repeating others. I didn't know if it was a little TG trick or what but it's still a great read. I'd like to get another copy someday.
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Re: Wreckers of Civilization
Tue, January 4, 2005 - 1:38 PMWOW YES !!!
i've read it twice! one of the most INSPIRING books EVER!
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Re: Wreckers of Civilization
Sun, June 19, 2005 - 10:40 AMI just finished the copy I got from san fran library. It's inspired me beyond belief!! I'm planning on writing a review for heathenharvest.com within the next week. Does Painful but Fabulous pick up in the psychic tv years?
Shadow Weaver
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Re: Wreckers of Civilization
Tue, August 9, 2005 - 8:50 AMHave read it cover to cover, three times thus far! The complete discography in the back helped me identify one of my TG bootleg records.